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MEETING
WEDNESDAY, 7:00 PM SEPTEMBER 22, 2004
Chairman Nettleton called the meeting to order, and established a quorum.
Members of the Elmore County Planning and Zoning Commission present were
Chairman Nick Nettleton, Vice-chairman Al Sobtzak, Patty Osborn, Doug King,
Courtney Hiler, Todd Waite and K.C. Duerig. Also present were Attorney of Record
Phil Miller, Senior Planner Bonnie Sharp and Hermila Kuannark, Administrative
Assistant.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. ED HOLDER – CUP for Resort/Motel in Agriculture B Zone.
Ed Holder explained background, existing uses on the property, and his
intentions of development. The restaurant inspection came back clean. He has
stored on the property two older Forest Service Modules. These modulars are
12X55 with two units each. He thinks they are 1974 to 1976. They have copper
wiring and plumbing. He would tie these down into concrete. He wants to rent
them out, until he can construct a new motel. Everything will be built in the
rustic motif to fit with the existing motif. The community knows this will not
change the vicinity. He answered questions from the commission regarding the
campgrounds, fuel storage and pumps, the existing trailers and use, the shop and
storage area, septic systems and type of surface for area around facilities.
Campgrounds area is grandfathered. He will store, sell, pump from above ground
tanks both regular and diesel gasoline. He has two existing septic systems,
which are adequate. The current trailers are rented. He will not be paving so
the surface around the vicinity will remain decomposed granite. He would like to
keep area motif conducive to that in Prairie.
Bill Davison stated he supports what Mr. Holder is doing. Pavement is not a good
idea up there. Holder has made great changes already in the café/bar, and will
continue.
Bill Zumstein stated it is a nice place, and it has been cleaned up quite a bit.
He is in favor of this.
R. G. Fadis stated the comments against Holder’s establishment applied to the
previous owners. Holder’s proposal is a good thing for the area. There is plenty
of room for economic growth. He is in favor of it.
Elaine Fadis stated if their future plans are anything like what he has
accomplished so far, she is in favor of it. Both businesses are great for the
area. She is in favor of it.
Linda Zumstein stated she believes it is a good thing. It is nice to go and get
dinner without having to come into town.
Carlene Braithwaite handed a paper to the commission, containing a list going
over the application. She gave a timeline history of the property since 1988.
She is against old junky trailers. She felt he wanted this CUP to get a hard
liquor license, and she has concerns with additional emergency calls related to
alcohol consumption. She stated they have no objections to a well built, in
compliance motel, gas station, retail store, or any other proposal to the area
which could be an asset to Prairie. However, a CUP should not be granted because
of non-compliance. There are inaccuracies of the application. She felt it was
obvious they were trying to skirt around the ordinance and the laws of the
county. First, zoning was wrong on application. Property is zoned commercial.
The trailers are 1965 according to the assessors office. She thinks the bar and
restaurant need a CUP. The trailer park should have a trailer park license and
follow the mobile home ordinance, and be brought up to code. She wanted
everything to be in compliance. Chairman Nettleton stated he remembers a quarter
mile radius of commercial area would have included the store. P. Miller asked
about the forest service modulars. C. Braithwaite stated they are 1965, the
other in front of the bunk house is 1961. One is rented to public and other to
an employee.
Travis Cook stated he has no problems with the proposal as long as in
compliance, and looks like a commercial establishment should.
Jack Streeter stated the forest service trailers have copper wire and should be
okay to live in. He goes to the restaurant and states it is a nice place.
Joe Rohner, real estate agent representing client Ron Sherman, stated safety was
a big concern with him. His client wants to donate some acreage for emergency
services. He asks for them to consider development in a good manner. He shares
same concerns as Carlene Braithwaite. New development in the area will increase
property values, but older trailers on a prominent corner in Prairie will not
look good and devalue property. He felt they should consider built cabins
instead. Aesthetics should also be considered.
Chairman Nettleton had Hemi Kuannark read into the record all letters submitted.
P. Miller stated Mr. Holder would need time to respond to any of the new letters
if he chose. He asked about the mobile home ordinance and older trailers.
Chairman Nettleton stated it is okay as long as the trailers are refurbished.
E. Holder stated the maps in the office show it as Agriculture B. Chairman
Nettleton stated if is it commercial then there are less hoops to go through. E.
Holder stated he is acting in good faith, not intentionally misleading anyone.
C. Hiler stated they need to establish if the land is commercial before
proceeding. B. Sharp stated it was determined by Mark Russell that a CUP was
needed for this project. Chairman Nettleton stated they need to determine the
zoning and reschedule the public hearing. P. Miller stated according to the
matrix there are many permitted uses, however a campground requires a CUP. C.
Hiler stated most uses were grandfathered. P. Miller asked how old the uses
were. E. Holder stated he was told since 1992. Chairman Nettleton asked if they
should just combine everything or focus on what just what he is asking for. He
would like to see a sketch or something regarding what the motif would look
like. E. Holder stated he could do that. He has ordered boards to redo the
outside of the homes to similar to cabins.
Sharon Holder stated it was not true that their sole purpose is to have a liquor
license. Their property is open for the community to come and review and ask
questions. It is not their intent to misrepresent what they are trying to do.
Chairman Nettleton left the public hearing open for all testimony, until October
20, 2004.
REGULAR MEETING
APPROVE MEETING MINUTES 08/04/04 and 08/18/04
C. Hiler had changes to the minutes.
A. Sobtzak motioned to approve the meeting minutes for 08/04/04 and 08/18/04
with changes. C. Hiler seconded the motion. Aye vote was unanimous, motion
carried.
APPROVE MEETING FCOs
ROBERT WOLFE
A. Sobtzak stated he would like to add the language “subject to final approval
by the County Commissioners” There was general discussion and consensus to allow
this.
A. Sobtzak motioned to approve the FCO for Robert Wolfe with the additions. P.
Osborn seconded the motion. Aye vote was unanimous.
JANE JUNGE
C. Hiler motioned to approve the FCO for Jane Junge with typo changes. D. King
seconded the motion. Aye vote was unanimous.
NEW BUSINESS
ED HOLDER
C. Hiler motioned to postpone this agenda item until October 20, 2004, or until
the public hearing is closed in the event new public testimony is presented. P.
Osborn seconded. Aye vote was unanimous.
ITEMS FROM THE PUBLIC
Jack Streeter brought a matter of a parcel of property sold. He had questions
regarding the zoning, Light Industrial and residential uses. There was general
discussion on when the property was zoned and when the property was sold. The
property was zoned before it was sold. Mr. Streeter asked for alternative he
will have Mr. Martin come back before the Commission to discuss further.
MEETING ADJOURNED
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Nick Nettleton, Chairman Date
Attest:_________________________________
Bonnie Sharp, Director Date
